Questions on interesting non-TSR items

Ralf Toth

Folks,

I'll try and learn from you more experienced folks about non-TSR stuff (which I know little of).

I'll use this thread to bother you with rookie questions Twisted Evil

Here's the first one: Is this a 1st printing Call of Cthulhu or what is it? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5233843891

And this is the secon: Dr. Who RPG How much is it worth? (approx.) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5234603963
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scribe · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:12 am Post subject:

I can't help you with those items. I know nothing of either one.

I would point out that there are far more collectible CoC items. Check Yog-sototh (or whatever it is) for more information.

Ralf Toth · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:37 am Post subject:

OK, in your experience, how rare is it and what's the value of it?

City State of the Invincible Overlord (1978). Is this a first printing? HW states that the 1st pr. is 1976, and 2nd 1979. So who's right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5238100936
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TheShield · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject:

The city state is more common than most people think.
In this condition, and considering I"m not sure it's really a 1st print (JG codex also states 1976 for the 1st), I would say 'stay away from it'...
That being said, $6 can hardly be an horrible deal !

I did start playing CoC in the mid 80s, and it was already translated in french, so I have a very limited knowledge on english versions. But I think all versions were boxed, so the book you mentioned looks like a part of an early box, maybe a 1st print.

I'm definitely not a Dr. Who expert, but this kind of games (80s, but not in the well-known collectibles) can usually be found for $10 with a bit of patience.

scribe · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:49 am Post subject:

I agree with Christophe. Do I dare say this JG item is the Vanity item of the JG line?

scribe · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:54 am Post subject:

I hereby from here onto forward.... ™........Vanity™

Ralf Toth · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:35 am Post subject:

scribe · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:32 am Post subject:

Starstone has gained quite a bit of 'star' appeal. It is a great adventure with a bit of cool artwork. But they seem to be far more common than what they might be worth in comparison to many other nonTSR rarities. Some of the Mayfair tourneys like Fez are a bit overhyped.

Booty and the Beast by Erol Otus' Fantasy Art Enterprise is probably one of the more expensive nonTSR D&D items out there. Yet it isn't more rare than many other titles going for 30 times less. It just has a name value to it and this has generated the interest.

It is difficult to call a lot of any of this stuff Vanity™ because it is all sorely undervalued compared to its TSR big brothers. Many times the rarity is there and even if it is not so rare it is still a comparitive bargain.

scribe · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:37 am Post subject:

Post 1990 game companies are still popping up here and there. It is gonna take some time for the Tome to dessiminate many of those in terms of importance.

You can understand why Heroic Worlds has become the standard for the collectible market for so long. It truly was a brave effort at the time for what had to have been a minor interest as far as demand for that book. In other words, I am sure it didn't sell as many copies to warrant the herculean effort required in pulling it together and getting it printed in hardback.

Ralf Toth · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:16 pm Post subject:

scribe · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:21 pm Post subject:

Is he find-able online?

Ralf Toth · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject:

scribe · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject:

Honestly, he kinda scares me. haha

He strikes me as someone who takes himself very seriously and probably thinks he owns the rights to the knowledge of existing game systems because of his work on Heroic Worlds.

He certainly deserves some credit but the Tome endeavors to go much farther than he ever did.

Ralf Toth · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject:

scribe · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:38 pm Post subject:

Just a gut feeling. I could be entirely wrong........I think Tim Kask has scarred me for life when it comes to dealing with these oldbies. When I was young....

Ralf Toth · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject:

TheShield · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:12 pm Post subject:

scribe · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject:

Ouch. I wish Frank would hurry up and quit this hobby already.

Ralf Toth · Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject:

Ok, this is not a Kinko's reprint Laughing

, but it is rare?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5238621195

(did I miss the Flying Buffalo section in the Non-TSR dep.?)
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scribe · Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject:

Naked Doom is reasonably rare.

Honestly, I think all of the T&T is funny in the same way (sort of) that Hackmaster comes across.

However, you wont find a Flying Buffalo/T&T section at the tome because it isn't D&D and it deserves coverage to a greater extent than i could give it. Someone who seriously collects it should get a web page going if there isn't one out there already.