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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They come in pairs! When I was young....

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes they do! They're worth about $750, but they've been fluctuating up of late. Of the three cons, it's the cheapest one. Still, I might put a bid on it, just in case someone doesn't. That's how I got that last LT. I'm still in disbelief about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1992 Gen Con program

I had a soft spot for these as well. And a huge crate of them for it!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes they do! They're worth about $750

Don't think any have sold that cheap for a long time and closer to $2k in some cases. Hacked up and/or hole-punched copies have gone for $500-600 the last two times. Wink
The latest "cheap" one is apparently incomplete, although I thought I could count eight pages there not seven. Might not have helped, that...?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost 2K for a LCOT? You're joking. Who in the world would pay that kind of coin for something that comes up 4-6 times a year?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Almost 2K for a LCOT? You're joking. Who in the world would pay that kind of coin for something that comes up 4-6 times a year?

wade168 for one, but someone who should've known a bit better was underbidder there. *jk*
Where did "worth $750" come from, still? Tamos are pretty much as "common" recently...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not in any hurry to acquire more. The last one I won I paid around $750 for and it was like a near-dead collectible. I watch them on ebay from time to time and they have generally hovered around $800-$900 with an $1100 recently.

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Condition is important! That aside, sticking it to others is one of my favorite ebay past times. "It's like candy to me," to quote an old acquaintance. It's a party to watch people bid 10 times over the next bid. Of course, I get stuck paying too much for stuff too, but that's the nature of the game, and it is a game, just like poker, with bluffs and calls and hisses and boos and cheers. Ebay is a sport. The high prices bring out more items and that is good for the hobby. The 1st woody is the perfect example. The known number has almost doubled in the past five years just because a couple of people pushed it to $4K. Of course, it's not worth that now, given the past few auctions, but there are more, so more people have the opportunity to enjoy one.

See you at the table, David! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okey-dokey, then, what happened to the 3rd print woody with TSR-employee character and ref pads? I've sent a couple of emails to the seller, but haven't heard a peep from them. Strange, considering they were very prompt in answering my queries about the condition of the booklets and box while the auction was active.

Anyone got any inside info? Or better yet, a confession?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it obvious? Somebody probably sent him a sucker's BIN. With an auction worth $2500-$3,000, someone probably sent him a $1,000-$1500 BIN. That goes on all of the time. Haven't you ever watched an auction and then come back to it only to find a low-ball BIN? Those are the collectors that I'd like to smack. People usually sell things because they need the money and someone just cheated them out of a house payment. If people out there are going to doing that sh*t, at least offer them what it's worth.

The only other thing I could think of is that the 'community' peppered him with too many emails and he just shut it down for later.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll never understand why a seller would end an auction early because of an offer. If someone asked me to end it early for a sum, I'd just tell them to make sure to bid that amount before the end of the auction.

That said, we don't really know what happened. Do people actually admit to getting sellers to end the item early? So no need to get to wrapped up trying to figure it out. Just hope that the seller figured out what is best for them.
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It's part of the competition thing, I guess. I could very easily imagine a collector who enjoys getting it more than keeping it. Given that there are thousands and thousands of collectible wargames and rpgs in the world, it is literally insane to try to collect them all. I have no desire to own a warehouse worth of material. How is that inspiring or educating anyone? The best thing to do is to choose a few companies and try your best get it all. Or choose a year, like 1980, and try to get all of the rpgs produced that year. Or choose a personality, like Bob Liddil, and collect everything he had a hand in. In any case a collector would be in a position to say something significant, further enriching the conversation. I have nothing but pity for those poor souls caught up in the fever of getting an item at any cost because they can never be, by definition, happy or satisfied. What a terrible way to live. It seems to me that we should be more interested in enjoying what we already have than worrying about getting more. That's why I like the Tome. The emphasis here is on what people have, not on what they don't have, and that, my friends, is a healthy thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a bad one week tally coming along. A guy with a boatload of cash could anchor in a nice start to the collection.
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I'm still waiting for that boat to arrive. Then I can start my collection Razz .

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's what happened to Candide after he loaded his rams carrying treasure aboard ship--it sailed without him. Any Panglossians out there?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tfm wrote:
Isn't it obvious? Somebody probably sent him a sucker's BIN. With an auction worth $2500-$3,000, someone probably sent him a $1,000-$1500 BIN.

$400 is more traditional, I hear.

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That goes on all of the time. Haven't you ever watched an auction and then come back to it only to find a low-ball BIN? Those are the collectors that I'd like to smack. People usually sell things because they need the money and someone just cheated them out of a house payment. If people out there are going to doing that sh*t, at least offer them what it's worth.

Amen to that, Kynan. Been over by the Acaeum recently?
It ain't going to stop, unfortunately.

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No. I haven't looked in on the forums there for two or three years.
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General, The Avalon Hill Nov/Dec 1969 Lake Geneva Con.

This item looks ripe with gaming history.
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